Not for sale. Sigh.

Bianchinaweb

This was another car at the dealer ship that I visited last week – it was an Autobianchi Bianchina “transfomabile”. This is a car that was based on the original Fiat 500 platform and, thus, is tiny. I have always loved the old 500s, but this is just that little more elegant (not to mention, rare). This one, as per the rest of the cars there, was in very good nick, but sadly, was not for sale.

OK – it’s not really something I’d get, given what I’m looking for, but I do find these hard to resist. The  colour was sort of a pale yellow that shouldn’t look good on a car, but looks great on this. Again, not for sale, so I’m just showing it because I thought it was “notable”.

1976 Alfa Romeo Spider, Viewed 01/19/2015 (kid in the candy store, part II)

76 DSpider

This 1976 Spider was sitting two cars over from the Duetto, and it’s the car I looked at first. If anything, it’s in even better nick than the Duetto. I looked all over and under it, and it appeared solid and very well maintained – not perfect – but not far off. It’s a New Hampshire car, so I looked very carefully for rust, but it’s been very well maintained. The previous owner had the pre-1974 chrome bumpers installed front and back, and had the interior adjusted to the same period. Sadly, he also put (wire) wheels on this – I parenthesize this because they’re not “real wires”, there’s a “rim” behind. All in all, it’s not a good look – though the salesman shared my opinion and said he could easily swap the panasports from the Duetto onto this (but could I do that to a Duetto?). Other than that everything here checked – good paint, great interior, solid footwells, solid spare tire holder, good underside… the only real issues I could find were that there was a small crack in the dash, between the air vent and the windshield – but it’s tiny at about 1cm, and is “tapped out”, with nowhere to go. The passenger side door doesn’t quite line up at the lower trailing edge, (about 5mm out) and the car has carbs (again), not Spica. This car does not have the headlamp covers that the Duetto does – too bad.

The interior is lovely – this feels a lot more “enclosed” and more like a “cockpit” than the Duetto. Everything is period correct except the radio and the shift knob. There are speakers on both sides of the rear deck that I’d probably want to remove so my dog could repose there, but again, the salesman said they’d be happy to adjust this to my requirements.

There’s not an awful lot to dislike here, but I am curious about the price. The salesman did tell me that the previous owner had spent a large sum of money fettling this and they had all the bills to prove it, but I’m still surprised that a well presented Duetto could be offered at the same price as this… makes me wonder if the Duetto is hiding anything and makes me wish I could test drive these both. Seriously tempted by both…

Will follow with sketches of some of the rare and interesting “not for sale stuff” at this dealership.

Alfa Romeo Duetto, Viewed 01/19/2015 (The kid in the candystore, Part 1)

Thomson_Duetto I’d seen a 1976 Spider (more on this one later) advertised at Hemmings, and I knew that it was in Toronto – but for various reasons, I was finding it hard to pin down. Last Saturday, Evelyn and I headed out to the general area and started looking. Sadly, the street on which we were searching was chock full of used car dealerships – but all were selling pretty recent stuff, and the only guy who seemed to click to the idea that an Alfa might be for sale nearby, tried to be helpful, but ultimately, wasn’t – unfortunately he was a chainsmoker and Evelyn was less than impressed when I returned to the car more odiferous than I had left. Anyway, we were searching up and down the road and I found a sideroad I could loop back on… and… there it was!!! It was rather inconspicuous from the road, so you really had to look to find it. But we spot it we did. Yay! I jumped out of the car and pressed my face to the glass. There were 3 Alfa Spiders glowing seductively inside, beside a 1962 Giulietta convertible, several Fiat Multiplas in absolutely prisitine condition, and – shock of shocks, an Autobianchi Bianchina – the first I’d ever seen this side of the pond (any good Italian car enthusiast from Woodbridge will know now the showroom of which I speak). Sadly, after circumnavigating the entire building, we had to accept that it was closed, and after leaving further nose prints and drool marks on the windows, returned home. I phoned early Monday and arranged an appointment to view the 1976 Spider, but on entering found a lovely Duetto, which I proceeded to ogle. The salesman informed me that the Duetto was on sale for exactly the same price as the 1976 Spider… oooooh. I wore a path between the two, but first I will describe the Duetto; I hadn’t expected to see this and wasn’t prepared for it. Regardless, it appears to be a 1967 or 1969 (have to check, wasn’t concentrating) Duetto. It sports panasport rims, which give the car a refreshing stance due to the slightly wider tyres required for such rims. The car was a lovely red (surprise, surprise) with black interior, and was in very good condition indeed. So much so that I can comment on the negatives in a paragraph or less; Paint was very good, but had notable “chipping” on the trailing edge of the driver’s side door. Interior was good but missing a couple of things  – the gas pedal needed a “footpad” (which the salesman said would be sorted). And… that’s about it. I didn’t get to test drive it as – even though Toronto was going through a brief balmy period (above zero!!!) there was no way I was going to request a drive of this on salty roads and I’m sure, in spite of his helpfulness and pleasantness, no way the salesman would have allowed it. Later. The car was in VERY good nick. My only real issue with it was the lack of SPICA injection – more on this later – it had dual webers, and the fact that the car sported the 1750 engine (I think, it could have been the earlier and smaller displacement too). Finally, the interior of the Duetto is not as slick as the Series 2 cars (which the “76” is) – much more basic. I’ll write about the 76 Spider tomorrow or Thursday. Again, given the fact that I didn’t get to drive this, I’m not going to post impressions – but what I can say is that this showroom was very impressive. Some of the cars were concourse (and many “not for sale”), and the cars that were for sale appeared well sorted, well presented, and if not “perfect”, not far off. The showroom reminded me of the maxim: “buy the very best car you can afford”. Both the Duetto and the Spider (to be featured next) are available for Cdn $24,000, negotiable. The high end of my budget (and more than I hope to spend), but immensely tempting nonetheless. I’ll post some drawings of some of the other lovely cars displayed here later – even though many (like the Autobinachi) are not for sale. An amazing find. These cars are so impressive that Evelyn is interested in in arranging to see them after having had to view them through the condensation that my heavy breathing created on the showroom windows….

The winter of my discontent… (and a BMW 3.0CS) NOT viewed, 01/16/2015

3.0CS

January in Canada is a cruel month… the caribou huddle together for warmth, the beavers hibernate in their frigid lodges, the polar bears shiver unimpressively for the tourists, but worst of all, sellers of classic cars bundle their treasures into hidden garages and vaults, not to be seen again until spring breathes her welcome balmy warmth to dispel the layers of snow and bitter cold.

So yes. No test drives recently – and none in the immediate offing.Why did I start to search for cars in the autumn??? At the time, I thought I was clever, catching all those sellers of their convertibles when no one wanted them (picture me rubbing my fingers together , á la Mr Burns, saying “Yeeeeesssssss” with an evil leer). Seemed clever in October, but perhaps less so now.

Interestingly, no one is interested in selling a convertible in January. Sigh.

Pathetic, really, because I would BUY one.

So, I have been reduced to “viewing” cars without the possibility of rolling their pampered treads out onto the salt encrusted thoroughfares of Toronto. I sympathize completely except for the inconvenience that this causes me in my search.

There’s a tiny glimmer of hope though… this weekend, as I expect to be viewing (and perhaps even starting, but not driving) two Alfa spiders: one, a 1976, the other a 1972 – for sale by the same private seller – more on this as it happens. In the meantime, I offer for your consideration a 1973 BMW 3.0CS.

The good news and the bad news at the same time: it’s in my price range. This car has been on sale for some seven months and started at around $20k (CDN), but has since been reduced to $17k. I have NOT seen the car, and the seller, in spite of having sent me some 70 photos of the car has not, after a couple of weeks of conversation, (and queries into my whereabouts and status as a purchaser) actually offered to let me view the car. There may be excellent reasons for this, but this does little to ameliorate my impatience. In the meantime, I will comment on the photos I have seen. $17k worries me though. Seems on one hand to be too cheap – and worries me on the other that it will ultimately be too expensive.

The car looks good, if worn. There is no evident rust (and rust is a real concern with these cars), but there are also no shots of the underside. The car is white with a navy blue interior that looks like vinyl. The interior is decent, though there are tiny rips in the seat, but in general it, like the exterior, looks more in need of a detailing then a restoration. The body is white, but some of the photos show reflections that suggest either a “complicated” reflection, or more likely, some imprecise surfacing (bodywork) in either the wing or door panels. Chrome is good, but appears to be lightly pitted. The engine bay is under represented with only a couple of photos (seemingly taken with a phone, judging by the relative “blurriness” of the shots) that show a correct engine that looks tired and in need of detailing, but nothing worse. Sadly, the engine bay does not exhibit its regular paint, but shows black protective goop (good, and bad, I suppose).

The body looks good except for the missing front bumper (the seller says he removed it because he thinks it looks better without, but he has it), and, oddly, on the boot, the Marque descriptors are misplaced (see drawing) – the “name should read “3.0CS” on the boot, on the right hand side – strangely this one shows “CS” on the left and “3.0” on the right. Not a big deal, but to restore it to its proper alignment, bodywork would need to be done. The car has the “North American sidelights which would ideally be removed at some point.

Lastly, this is a 4 speed, not a 5.

I really do like this car, in spite of the fact that it is not a convertible (which I want), but I also worry about it thus:

  1. These are rare. I can’t remember the last time I saw one on the streets – the last one I saw in the flesh was in the BMW Museum in Munich, four years ago. Parts? Community? Service?
  2. The seller claims new, professionally installed floorpans, but doesn’t say whether they are the proper dual floorpans. He suggests, though doesn’t promise, that otherwise the car is rust free.
  3. The seller claims that the car would pass certification on both electrical and mechanical.
  4. The seller has (after two weeks of email) not yet given me any information that would lead me to actually VIEW the car and has offered no reason as to why this is the case.

I am not slagging the seller – he may just be a very busy guy. But, every night I come home and check my email to see if there has been an offer for me to actually view the car or a reason why I cannot until spring. Neither email has been in the offing.

It IS the winter of my discontent…

NOTE: I’ve just noticed that the drawing has the word “bodywork” pointing to the door and wing panel… this should actually be “bodywork?”. Cheers – B

Alfa Romeo Spider Series 2 Bumpers.

Alfa bumper

The Series 2 is actually split into two categories – “2” and “2A” – the 2A was essentially a design done to satisfy the demands (in the US) of increasingly stringent crash structure requirements and improved emissions. Thus the series 2A cars (1975 – 1981/82) were produced with heavier rubber bumpers than the light and better integrated chrome bumpers found on the earlier cars. Series 2A cars were also compromised by the requirement for better emissions and were thus slower. According to Alfaspiderfaq.org, the series 2A cars “lost an unknown but noticeable amount of horsepower, and became less and less drivable until the introduction of the Series 3 cars (in 1982/83).

Most Series 2A cars have had their mechanicals sorted such that the drivability issues and horsepower loss have been mitigated, and may have had the lighter chrome bumpers swapped in. The interesting thing to me is that the rubber bumpers aren’t bad on the Alfa – they were actually integrated quite well, considering, although the rear bumper does stick out far enough to look like it could carry a full complement of hardcover books. Ultimately though, the Series 2A cars only really look poorly when parked next to a Series 2.

In my humble opinion, of course. 🙂

1976 Alfa Romeo Spider, Viewed 25/10/2014

1976 Alfa

This car had been advertised on kijiji, and though it wasn’t within my preferred year range (1971 – 1974) I thought it would still be worth a look. It was about an hour’s drive from where I live. The car was parked in the driveway when I pulled around the corner, and looked very good indeed. However, when I parked my Golf and walked up the other side of the car I saw some pretty nasty rear bumper damage. A closer inspection revealed paint bubbling in the rocker panels, and also some sort of “film” or “protectant” applied to the rockers which picked out the highlights differently and rather sub-divided the paint job. The rear bumper was obviously a concern, and the sketch isn’t an exaggeration, it really looked like it had been gnawed by a shark, and the plastic facet that stretched the length of the bumper in the centre was sagging and awry. Obviously this would need replacing. The interior looked good although the carpet and floor mats were worn and the gear shift knob was aftermarket and a little cheesy.

So, I knocked on the door and asked the fellow about his car. Apparently he and his father (a mechanic, I was informed) fixed the car up and did the bodywork and mechanics themselves. He noted that the bumper would need to be replaced… (really? 😉  ) but didn’t offer an explanation of the cause of the damage (and I didn’t pursue it). The rockers had apparently been replaced in 2011, so I was a bit surprised to see as much bubbling of the paint in that area. Sadly, when we opened the hood, I noted that the SPICA injection had been removed and replaced with dual carbs I didn’t recognize. So, off for the test drive. The convertible top of the car was new canvas, which was very nice, but the rear window had suffered and had a couple of hazy blemishes in the centre, exactly where the rear view mirror points. The car drove and shifted well (even in and out of second gear), but the brakes were shot – the owner suggested the master cylinder might be causing problems – either way, braking was seriously dodgy, so I drove the car exceedingly gingerly, and never really got a real sense of the power delivery (which seemed smooth) or the handling. The car tracked well though and the steering was solid and predictable without play in the wheel. During the drive the owner let slip that he’d thought of putting on the preferred (to me) chrome bumpers, but had found them very difficult to find, and too expensive ($2,500) when he did.

I actually liked the colour – second Alfa I’ve seen and they’ve both been this colour – btw – apparently it’s not “silver” but “metallic grey”. This Alfa had “turbina” wheels – and I do like the look of them, but I wondered how many toothbrushes I would go through in a season cleaning those… “shudder”.

The owner was asking $11,000 for the car and I told him that I’d think about it. In reality, I had already made my decision. The bubbling paint was a concern to me, and as I’ve suggested, I wasn’t bonkers about the extra paint protection on the rockers and lower wings – also, there was some “softness” under the rockers behind the front wheels which seemed like bad news. The engine ran well, but the brakes were of course, a concern but, probably, not a hugely expensive one. Between the standard carb, the incipient bodywork issues, the brakes and the shark-attack bumper, I was already thinking about what car I’d like to view next.

Value for Money: 4/10 – Too much needs to be done here for this to be worth that particular ask, imho.
Driving Impression: 6/10 – I did enjoy driving this, but the brakes were a serious problem which compromised the driving impression.
Body: 4/10: I include the bumpers in the “body”, and between the rockers, the underside and the body, this needed work. 
Engine: 7/10: Seemed good. Disappointed about the carbs though. 
Handling: 7/10 – Good, but not fully explored. 

Again, Evelyn wasn’t here for this one so she won’t be submitting rankings.

1973 Alfa Romeo Spider, Viewed 14/10/2014

1973 Alfa

I’d seen this Alfa online on Autotrader, but it was at a dealership, which put me off a little (I figure that they are always going to be a little more expensive at a dealership because of the “middleman”). Regardless, I decided to go out and take a dekko at it after work one afternoon.

The car was out by the road so I took a look at it before going into the dealership proper. The first look confirmed me in what I had suspected by the advertised price; this needed some work. The paint was generally tatty and was bubbling and cracking in the rockers. From what I could see of the underside there was the beginnings of some rust there that would require excising. The rear tail-lights – strangely – appeared to be angled “up” toward the sides of the car which didn’t look right. It was subtle, but I could see it. Wasn’t sure if it was a bad replacement of the lights after bodywork or if the bumper was bent – either way, not a good look.

Went in and yakked with the sales guys. They were selling the car for a friend, they said, and opined that he’d probably sell it for less than asking (which was $7500). I asked for a closer look at it and a test drive so while one salesman went to look for the keys, I headed out with the other for a closer look. The engine bay was decent but very dirty and the SPICA injections system had been replaced by a carb which I wasn’t familiar with (big plastic casing – very 80s looking). I’d rather have the original SPICA injection if possible, because if it was fettled correctly it apparently provided better fuel control than dual Webbers without sacrificing power or driveability. Looked in the boot and it was nasty. Someone had painted it with some sort of protective black paint and it was popping, cracking  and flaking off everywhere, which suggests some nastiness underneath.

So – Into the car. The interior was actually quite good. I do like the Alfa Spider interior – it’s snug, the IP is beautiful and the shift mount very distinctive. I was handed the keys and tried to start it – nothing. “Ah” said the dealer, “the battery has gone flat… perhaps you could come back on Saturday?” Hmmm. Further questioning about the car produced concerns about the “clutch or transmission” that would need to be fixed before it was roadworthy (although he had seemed quite content to allow me to test drive it… maybe he knew the battery would be flat? Odd). Anyway, it was a nice little car (smaller than I had expected it to be) but it probably requires more work than would be ideal for me in my current circumstances.

Evelyn wasn’t present for this visit, so the rankings are mine and mine alone.

1973 Alfa Romeo Spider Rankings;

Value for money: 2/10 with the amount of work that appears to be needed here, I’d be leery of spending any more than about $3500 – max – on this car.
Driving Impression: N/A
Body: 5/10 rough in places and I’d be worried about what’s underneath. Possible that this has been rear-ended?
Engine: 3/10 – Didn’t start. Suggestions of undefined clutch and/or transmission issues, non original car/injection system…
Handling: N/A

And that was that. Unlikely that this is the car for me – so I didn’t follow them up on their offer of a test drive.

Widening the field…

I had started this search almost positive that I was going to get a TR6, but I am less certain of that now. The several test drives have left me unconvinced, and while I know that judging any marque based upon two test drives would be silly, I think it won’t hurt to open up the field a little… So these are the cars I’m thinking of:

Honda S600

I’ve always liked the Honda S600/S800s. I suppose what is most intriguing about this car is its diminutive stature and its 9000 rpm redline. Finding a car at my ideal price point will be a challenge though, especially when you consider that these are exceedingly rare and would likely require me to fly somewhere to view and test drive it. There are 11 S600s/S800s for sale worldwide (that I am aware of). Of these, only three are convertibles – one is in England, another in Greece and the last is in Australia. Clearly, this adds difficulty. Still, it doesn’t hurt to be on the lookout, and if I’m willing to settle for a coupe, there is one for sale just across the border in New York State.

TR4

I am still thinking of a TR6, or a 4 or 250. I do like the Michelotti bodied TR4s, but their comparative rarity means that they tend to be a slightly more expensive proposition, and this is even more so with the 250s.  Evelyn has said that she doesn’t like the “fins” on the back end (she has the same complaint about the Sunbeam Tiger). One of the positives about these cars is that, unlike the Honda, they are supported by an avid fan base and thus parts and service are much easier to come by.

Alfa

As mentioned in an earlier post, Evelyn took a shine to a 1986 Alfa Romeo Spider Veloce at a dealership. I did a little research into these and have decided to keep an eye out for 1971 to 1974 models; these are distinct in that they are “pre-emissions controls” cars, and like the Honda it’s one of the few cars that make 1hp per cubic inch. I like the Duettos too, (Spiders made from 1966 to 1969 – the “boat-tail” – you’ve seen it in “The Graduate“), but they are considerably more expensive than these and make less power.

Fiat 124

I’ve never actually driven a Fiat Spider, but I’ve never really WANTED to… that’s not fair, is it? I think maybe that my prejudice against these is that when I was growing up, they seemed to be absolutely everywhere and, considering that this is a Pininfarina design, it’s pretty “sedate” looking. I’m not sure if I like the fact that it’s a 2 + 2 either. Though my dog would likely find the backseat more comfortable than the rear “shelf” on a TR. It probably is worth taking a look at one of these when, and if, one pops up locally… (ooh… had a dekko at Kijiji and there is a 1962 Fiat 1200 convertible quite close… have to wait for spring for a test drive though! Curses. 🙂

Datsun 1600

The Datsun Roadster (1600/2000). A very nice convertible and the precursor to the Datsun “Z” cars. I do like these, but there are some issues – the best cars are from a very narrow band – March to December of 1969 – these had the more powerful 2L engine, but still used the lower and more attractive (to my eye) windshield. In 1968, the car got a new integrated windshield that was “taller” and makes the car look a little “top heavy”, especially when the top is up. It goes without saying that the 1967 models come at a premium. The other odd thing about these is that they have a very low back end – makes it look like you’ve filled the boot with concrete. 😉

Datsun240

Yes. A 240Z. I would consider it, even though it’s not a convertible. They are really lovely cars and there are still enough of them around to make parts and service possible. One of my friends, Adam, (who is helping me in my search) used to own a 1973 (?) Sunburst Yellow model, so this is a car I have driven, though it was a long time ago (about 1987, iirc). I do think that these are beautiful cars (their homage to the E-Type is pretty obvious), and I like the snug and purposeful “cockpit”. Definitely worth considering.

Fiat X19

Yes, a Fiat X1/9. I don’t know that I’m really considering this. I’ve always liked  these cars, but I understand that their performance is pretty anaemic. The earlier models (with desirable smaller bumpers) made some 75hp from the 1.2L engine, which is hardly stunning. The other issue with these is that there are not an awful lot of them around anymore and rust was a very serious issue with these. It’s also a Targa – not really a proper convertible.

Porsche

Another “Targa”, the Porsche 914. I have optimistically included the 914/6 above, but I don’t think that this is on the cards – they are simply too expensive. I’ve never quite warmed to the look of these, but the prices for the 914/4s tend to be quite good and I understand that they are a blast to drive. Both this and the Fiat above would cause a small problem for me, in that I could not fit my dog in the car, if Evelyn is with me…

Toyota Sports

I don’t know why I included this. First, it’s a hard car to draw (as the effort above attests) and they are beyond exceedingly rare. I know of two that are on sale worldwide, one, in Copenhagen (which appears to be something of a resto-mod), and the other is in California (which is being sold by a dealership that is asking way, WAY, way way way too much for it  – $69k US and it needs work). Still, there is something in this car of the Toyota 2000GT – and this is the closest that I’d ever get to that.

I’ve missed a couple – I would consider a Jaguar XJC (this is the rare coupe version of the XJ6 and 12), but it’s not a convertible, it’s hard to find in manual, and when you do find one, it tends to be out of my price range. I’ve always wanted a Mercedes 230/250/280SL, but again, the prices on these have skyrocketed in the past 10 years and a good example is likely beyond my means.

So, what do you think of this list? Is there anything you would add? I’d love to hear your thoughts.

1972 TR6, Viewed, 5/10/2014

TR6 3

This was the second TR6 we were going to view that Saturday, and it was a little out of the way on our way home. We stopped for fish and chips at a Pub and got to the dealership that was selling this a tad later than I had wanted.

The dealership was an interesting one and had a good selection of older cars, including a Volvo P1800ES, a 1986 Alfa Romeo Spider and, of course, the TR. The dealer and I looked over the TR together – it was a car he knew well as it was local and he knew the owner. The body and paint were in very good nick with only a few very minor flaws, and the interior was in great shape. The engine bay was coated in the black goop, which, while I know why it’s there, I’m not a fan of. Other than that, the car presented beautifully. I got down on the ground and had a dekko underneath, and it was all good news down there too. The dealer was asking (iirc) about $14,500. By this time, it had become late and the dealer was looking to close up, so I didn’t test drive the car. Interestingly, Evelyn had sidled over to a black 1986 Alfa Spider on the other side of the lot and was looking at it with appreciation. The dealer noticed this and abandoned me to the TR and hurried over to talk to Evelyn. Obviously he knew all about who makes the real buying decisions in most relationships. 🙂

The Alfa was an ’86 Spider Veloce and was a South Carolina or Georgia car. It was quite pretty in its black paint and tan interior. The paint rather diminished the predominance of the black “winglet” on the rear end. This car too, was in great nick, though I found the interior, in spite of the leather seats, a little “plastic” and “80s”. I had to admit that it was a lovely car though. I believe that he was asking something in the range of $11,000 for this, and he inferred that he didn’t think that it was going to last long.

We suggested that if the weather was good the following weekend that we might come out and test drive both, before we bundled back into our car and headed home.

As it turned out, we were unable to make it back the next weekend due to other commitments, but a part of this was an ambivalence on my part. More about that in my next post.

Ratings for these cars;

1972 TR6

Value for money: 8/10 (hard to tell, but based on appearances, that’s my assertion).
Driving Impression: N/A
Body: 8/10
Interior: 8/10
Engine: 8/10 (Based on appearance of engine, and period correctness)
Handling:  N/A

1986 Alfa Romeo Spider Veloce

Value for Money: 8/10 (again, hard to tell, but at the lower price, this seemed a lot of car…)
Driving Impression: N/A
Body: 9/10
Interior: 6/10 (the interior was pretty much perfect – the rating is a reflection of what I thought of the design)
Engine: N/A
Handling: N/A

Evelyn’s Rankings:

For the 1972 TR6:

Cool factor: 2
Diminished by its colour, as well as the much cooler looking – in my view – Alfa across the lot. Apologies to TR fans. 🙂
Comfort: N/A
Price: 3
Once again, the Alfa was rising in my estimation at this point.

For the1986 Alfa Romeo Spider Veloce:

Cool factor: 7
I really thought this was a lovely looking car all around. I would have to disagree with Bruce’s opinion about the ‘plastic’ look of the interior. If the decision was mine, there would be a Black on tan 1986 Alfa Romeo Spider Veloce in our parking bay and this blog would have had to end its run. 🙂 But, sadly, the decision is not all mine. 
Comfort: N/A
Price: 7
It WAS cheaper than the TR.
Likelihood that I’d join Bruce on a Sunday drive in this: Definitely.

1975 TR6, Viewed 5/10/2014

1975 TR6
Illustrated view of a 1975 TR6

I found this car on Kijiji. This is a 1975 British Racing Green Triumph that underwent a frame off nut and bolt restoration close to 10 years ago. The asking price is (Cdn) $18,000.

This car was a little further off than the last one (about an hour and a half), but sadly the day did not dawn in brilliant fashion, but with heavy cloud and the threat of rain. Regardless, Evelyn and I got into the car and headed out… I could see that this car was going to be a horse of a different colour as soon as I saw it in the driveway. In spite of the grim weather, it gleamed in the dull light, and it looked – to all intents and purposes – “new”. The seller had done the work on this car over a period of 5 years and his efforts showed. The exterior was close to flawless – even the wheel wells were done in BRG and were basically spotless. The interior was tan in colour and presented very nicely indeed. I did the standard under car look and the trailing arms looked good as did the “T” plate up front. This car had had minor mods done in the resto, and boasted new wiring (non-Lucas) new rear springs, which lifted the back end the smallest amount and removal of all emissions controls. Oh – and being a 1975, it has the (undesirable, to me) bumper over-riders. The car also came with a hard top, but one without glass…

The only possible issues I could see with the car was that the convertible top was a little tatty due to always being folded away and there was a little rust in the engine bay (again – painted in the exterior colour) where some brake fluid had spilled. Other than that, this car WAS pristine. So, to the drive…

Hopped in, choked it and started the car (cold day). Idled it for about a minute and the pulled way. The brakes on this one were much better than the previous, but still, were less than confidence inspiring. The engine ran beautifully, but the throttle appeared to have 2 positions; “idle” and “go”, which didn’t make for a great deal of tractability. I was wearing a pair of Blundstone boots and found that the pedals were small enough and close together enough to give me the feeling of being “ham footed”. The car was something of a shock: I had expected its handling and performance to be on par with its incredible looks, but this was not the case. The car flexed over bumps and although the engine had a beautiful sound (exacerbated by the Monza exhausts), it was sullied by all the creaks and groans that the body made as it flexed and bounced over the road. I know that TRs tend to be a little agricultural, but this was still a surprise. Finally – the car DID make a lovely sound, but, with the top down, it was LOUD… probably too loud. Evelyn and I had to shout to converse.

Have I been spoiled by my Mercedes? I had thought that as the Merc was a “basic” (entry level) Mercedes that all cars of this vintage would have similar characteristics – solidity, smoothness, pliability, tractability, and a positive feel generated through the seat, the throttle and the wheel… but again, the TR was a shock – steering that flailed a little, a throttle that seemed to be an “on/off switch and a chassis that bucks, creaks and flexes… We did not drive far, probably about 3km, before it started to rain, at which point I did a U-turn in order to get the car back to it’s owner as dry as possible.

But what now? Do I want a TR6? I’m conflicted – this is a car I have always fancied and I am surprised to find it is not what I thought…. Now I have only driven 2 of these cars… but so far the experience isn’t knocking me out.

Ratings for this car:

Value for money: 8/10
Driving Impression: 6/10
Body: 10/10
Interior: 9/10
Engine: 6/10 (the engine was great – the delivery was wanting though).
Handling: 5/10 (My 1971 Mercedes sedan handled better than this… and that – to me – isn’t right).

Evelyn’s Rankings:

Cool factor: 6
This car is in really good shape all around.
Comfort: 3
Price: 4
Likelihood that I’d join Bruce on a Sunday drive in this: More than likely, only coz it was nicer than the first. Would still prefer driving on country roads given the tight, small feel of the car.

I did not make an offer on this car. I think that the price was fair, and the car was exemplary… but I am beginning to wonder if it is actually what I want… I am deeply surprised by this as I was committed to the idea of a TR6…

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